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Equal Rights

So my fiancée Nikki is in a Philosophy class right now online. The topic of last week’s discussion forum was to “Identify a specific belief you have that you think is worth defending, and explain how you might go about defending it.” Nikki chose equal rights/gay marriage. Below is her initial post and a response from a fellow classmate along with Nikki’s reply back to her classmate. Took out late names for obvious reasons. Thought I’d share this with you all though.
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Nikki XXXXXXXX – 1/20/2011 8:28:09 PM

Their are many things and subjects that can be justified such as beliefs, actions, emotions, claims, laws. These subjects we deal with on a daily basics in our daily lives.

One belief I have is same sex marriage. A lot of people are against it. But I’m for it. I feel everyone should have the same rights regardless of their sexuality. Homosexual couples just want the ability to have their partners share their medical coverage or be beneficiaries on life
insurance policies. It’s never been about changing the definition of marriage. It’s not even about marriage. It’s about being able to share the same rights as a heterosexual couple.

Brenda XXXXXX – 1/23/2011 5:12:50 PM
Hello Nikki,
I read your respond and I can relate to what you are saying about your belief, and I had to respond to you, I have a daughter and her name is Nilkki also, and she thinks she is gay or homosexuals what ever you call it. Nikki I all most lost my mind simply because of my belief, sex, marriages of the same sex is a abomination according to God’s word, Nikki if it was ok in the eye sight of the Lord why do these people have to fight for their rights, and of course it was gay people in the bible, read in Genesis 19:23, and to show you God hate any kind of same sex he burn the city of Sodom and Gomorrah down himself he did not have his angle to do it he did it, and abomination look it up in the dictionary means flit. Do you see same sex of any kind of animals, God’s word to Noah go and get the animals male and female, my belief is God going to save his people that have lost their identity, even my daughter, I can be dead and gone she will get her mind back, and she got to want to do it, that’s why she is lost now, because she do not want to listen and learn or obey. Those people do not have any right, as begin the same sex lovers. We all belong to the Lord Jesus Christ.and what about the children of this world those people again, are telling the children it ok to be homosexuals, I have seen so many young pretty girls at schools and other places as lovers and it just bring tears to my eyes,let these children grow to become what they want to, and children is killing them self because of this homosexuals act.

Nikki XXXXXXXX – 1/23/2011 8:14:53 PM

It doesn’t surprise me that you took this and turned it into a religious argument. That’s the #1 thing opponents to equal rights do right off the bat. The thing is it’s not even about marriage. It’s about being able to let the homosexual community have the same LEGAL rights that heterosexuals have. I’m straight and getting married in May. I have friends in other states that are not able to share their health insurance with their partner just because that person is the same sex. That’s wrong and unfair. Again it has NOTHING to do with marriage. The people in the homosexual community have all along said it’s simply an equal rights issue. Why is it ok to not allow them the same right? Would people argue and picket and fight if we still were treating African Americans like we did before they won their equal rights? They were judged and discriminated against simply based on the color of their skin. These people are being unfairly judged and discriminated against simply because they like the same sex. And just so you know Sodom and Gomorrah was not destroyed purely for homosexuality. There were plenty of other sins going on.

Why should we force our children to be something they don’t want to be. I didn’t CHOOSE to be a straight female. I was born that way. Those that argue that homosexuality is a “choice” have no clue what they are talking about. Did you, Brenda, CHOOSE to be heterosexual? No you just knew you liked men and not women sexually. The same way my friends that are gay didn’t CHOOSE to be homosexual. They just knew, most from a young age, that they were not into girls or boys. My fiance works with a guy who was born a woman. He lives his life as a man, dresses like one, etc. He’s known since he was around 5 that he was not a girl. He hated the girly clothes his mom would buy him, etc. His parents loved him unconditionally and let him live his life the way he knew and felt in his heart that he should, as a man.

These kids killing themselves are not doing it solely based on the fact they were homosexual. Some weren’t gay at all, but of course the media doesn’t sensationalize those stories. They don’t make as much noise in the press as the gay kid that hung himself does. These kids are killing themselves due to bullying. I was bullied as a kid for being overweight. So was my fiance. The problem lies with the parents to be honest. Kids today are so pacified and told that “everyone is a winner” and other nonsense like that. Everyone gets trophies even if they didn’t win. Doing that to our kids just makes them grow up thinking that everyone wins and that sometimes you’re gonna lose and that you need to learn to deal with defeat and losing. These kids don’t know how to deal with the bullying like we got when we were kids. I am stronger today for learning to deal with the teasing, etc. that I got as a kid. It’s made me a better woman today. So if you’re daughter feels she is gay why treat her any differently? She’s your daughter. You should love her unconditionally, regardless of her sexual preference. If, God willing, my fiance and I have kids someday we’ve already talked about how we’re going to handle it if any of them are gay. We are simply going to tell them that we love them no matter what, and let them know the battles they will have to face in their life. But one thing we won’t do is try and force a belief or lifestyle on them that they don’t want. All that will do is make them hate you as a parent more and act out.

Gay Marriage: Part 2

So I was doing some research last night on same-sex marriage and was trying to find out just how far behind we are in the United States compared to the rest of the world. You’ll find some maps below, from Wikipedia, showing gay marriage in the United States, Europe, and the whole world.  While we may not be far behind some countries look how far behind we are compared to Europe, one of our closest allies. And take a look at Canada on the World map. Same-sex marriage is now recognized in the ENTIRE country. Wow. Way to go you crazy Canucks. Least there’s one thing you all have done that I can applaud you for! I’m working on trying to get a guest post on here soon so keep an eye out for that.

United States

Source: Wikipedia
Source: Wikipedia

?? Same-sex marriages

?? Unions granting rights similar to marriage

?? Unions granting limited/enumerated rights

?? Foreign same-sex marriages recognized

?? No specific prohibition or recognition of same-sex marriages or unions

?? Statute bans same-sex marriage

?? Constitution bans same-sex marriage

?? Constitution bans same-sex marriage and other kinds of same-sex unions

Europe

Source: Wikipedia

Source: Wikipedia

?? Same sex marriage recognized

?? Civil unions recognized

?? Unregistered cohabitation recognized

?? Issue under political consideration

?? Unrecognized or unknown

?? Same sex marriage banned

World

Source: Wikipedia

Source: Wikipedia

?? No information

Homosexuality legal
?? Same-sex marriage recognized
?? Other type of partnership (or unregistered cohabitation) recognized
?? Foreign same-sex marriages recognized
?? No recognition of same-sex couples

Homosexuality illegal

?? Minimal penalty

?? Large penalty

?? Life in prison

?? Death penalty

Gay Marriage

So I’m going to try and jump on a topic that isn’t going to end up sitting well with some people in my life. That’s the topic of gay marriage. Recently the Iowa Supreme Court ruled that same-sex couples had a right to get married and upheld a county judge’s ruling in September 2007 that overturned the state’s ban on same-sex marriage. Starting this Monday, April 27, 2009 they can start applying for marriage licenses. The only thing left is for the Iowa Constitution to be re-written to say this, but it’s happening. And of all places it’s happening in Iowa, a middle-America, farming state. It’s kind of funny that it can get approved here in Iowa but not in a state like California. One of the most liberal states in the entire United States.

When I heard the news of this I immediately texted a gay couple that I am dear close friends with. They both were ecstatic. They are two of the nicest women you’ll ever meet and I love them to death. They were there for me when I was really low at the beginning of my divorce and have been a rod and a shoulder to lean on cakeall the way through it. They were the first ones I texted when the divorce was final. I’m so happy that they’ll finally get the chance to get married. Why shouldn’t they be able to? Why shouldn’t they be allowed to have the same rights I had when I was married to my ex-wife?

Now starts the part that is gonna get me some emails or comments, etc. that aren’t going to be pretty.

See I was raised a Baptist Christian. I believe in God, Heaven, Hell, that you must be saved and ask Jesus into your heart to go to Heaven, etc. I was also raised that gay people are sinners and will burn in hell unless they repent and change their ways. Well you know what? I’ve grown up. I’m almost 30 years old. I’ve seen the world and realized that not everything I was taught is necessarily true. See I was raised that being gay is a choice. I used to believe that 100%. Not anymore. I’m sorry but it’s not a choice. Did you CHOOSE to be straight? As a male did you CHOOSE to find women attractive? As a female did you CHOOSE to find men attractive? No. You were BORN that way. Plain and simple. Now if that’s easy to grasp and understand then why can’t a gay man or woman be BORN that way? Why must it be a CHOICE for them? It’s not a choice people. It’s something they have no control over. Now I do think SOME (small percentage) of gay men and women choose to be that way after multiple failed heterosexual relationships, but a big majority of those end up realizing it’s not them or what they like and go back to being straight. I’ve personally seen that happen more than once in my life with friend of mine both male and female. Seeing that firsthand just strengthened my belief that being homosexual is not a choice.

I’m proud to be an Iowan. I’m proud to be part of a state that isn’t close minded and that knows that everyone deserves the same rights. It’s no different than when blacks were denied the same rights as white people. So why is this issue so hard to get over and accept? Black and White. Gay and Straight. The point is whether your heterosexual or homosexual there is one simple common factor that binds us all together. We are all human beings and deserve the same rights. Period.